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Usually we think of permaculture as a system for land and food, where humans work with the flows and systems of nature. Can we also apply permaculture to societies? To our justice or education systems? Can we reorganize our civilization to live on yield rather than the principle before depleting our most important stocks? In Extraenvironmentalist #87 we talk about the ideas permaculture offers to our societies. First, we hear from a series of interviews and discussions at North American permaculture conferences and convergences. Then, we have several segments with Toby Hemenway as he highlights basic design principles of permaculture, the paradigm shift they entail and the ways to restructure our civilization from agriculture toward horticulture.

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// Speakers in Order of Apperance Chuck Marsh – www.livingsystemsdesign.net Rennie Davis – betribe.org Andrew Millison – PDC Online Don Tipping – www.sevenseedsfarm.com Mark Robinowitz – www.peakchoice.org Jude Hobbs – cascadiapermaculture.com Pandora Thomas – www.pandorathomas.com Scott Pittman – www.permaculture.org Jenny Pell – www.communitybydesignllc.org Claudia Joseph – permaculture-exchange.org Kelda Lorax – www.divinearthgp.com Rick Valley – earthkeeperlandscaping.com Charlotte Anthony – handsonpermaculture1.org Penny Livingston – regenerativedesign.org Toby Hemenway – patternliteracy.com Joel Salatin – www.polyfacefarms.com Larry Santoyo – www.permacultureacademy.com Jacki Saorsail – www.gaiauniversity.org Peter Bane – http://www.permacultureactivist.net // Books Gaia’s Garden: A Guide to Home-Scale Permaculture by Toby Hemenway The Permaculture City: Regenerative Design for Urban, Suburban, and Town Resilience by Toby Hemenway The Permaculture Handbook: Garden Farming for Town and Country by Peter Bane // Music (in order of appearance) Problems – Titles via OneandThree Lapa – Roadwalk via Loci Records Emancipator – Diamonds via Loci Records Nym – Lesser Known Good via Loci Records Misun – Nobody Knows via Et Musique Pour Tous Timbre – Song of the Sun via Earmilk // Production Credits and Notes Our editor Kevin via Sustainable Guidance Youtube Channel Episode #87 was supported by donations from the following _generous listeners:_ Nathan in Ontario Benny in the noosphere Armand in New York Gavin in Virgina